One of the interesting things that emerge in chapter 24 is that Atticus is upset that Tom Robinson gave up his and hope in prison and got himself shot while trying to escape prison. Atticus was a great attorney for Tom and he wanted to on a second trial even though they chances of winning was not good. Atticus and Calpurnia went to tell Tom Robinson wife (Helen Robinson) that Tom was dead while trying to escape prison. Aunty Alexandra was astonished.
Jacquis I think this will be very intersecting to talk about and have a good conversation because I know that everyone will love to talk about how Tom died and how.
I feel Tom Gave Up on his life because he already knew he was going to die cause he had the appeal coming up and they was going to charge him with guilty because he was black. They was going to kill him any way cause he was get at the appeal they was taking him to the chair.That why he try to escape because he knew he probably had a chance to be free cause he could have got alway. He felt he could have die for doing something not for something he did not do.
@jacquis: I agree that this part of the chapter was interesting because I never would've thought that Tom Robinson would escape. He knew that if he stayed in prison he would die in prison. I think Tom thought it was best for him to try to escape.
@jabari you're right I did forget some textual evidence thanks Jabari . But for everyone else I agree with all y'all because Tom was in a sentence to life or free situation so this would be a great thing to talk about
In Chapter 24,Attitus Finch interrupted the missionary circle to tell Calpurina & Alexandra that Tom Robinson was dead because he tried to escape from prison and they shot him seventeen times. In the text it stated(On pg.315) "Seventeen bullet holes in him." Tom Robinson took his own chances because he knew he probably wasn't going to be a free man. In the text it stated(On pg.315) "I guess Tom was tired of white men's chances and preferred to take his own." Generally speaking blacks get less chances than whites.
@Sierra I agree this would be a insteresting thing to talk about because I excited to see what every one has to say because mostly everyone has pick this topic and so did I.
@seirra I agree with you because at the point in time whites we're treated better than blacks and had better opportunities and Tom new that he was going to die anyways because there was no chance that a black man would win under those circumstances so he Tried to escape well knowing might set him free but also that it was the right chose cuz he would die anyways.
I agrre with u Sierrra when you said that Generally speaking blacks get less chances than whites . Why because , if a lot of black people walking to a store they will be looking at you like you about to Steal out the store . And they will be following you around the store antell you pay for you stuff that you picked up .
@sierra: I agree because more whites get a better chance in winning then blacks.. And he knew that he would die regardless " what's the point of living if Tom knew he was going To die?"
What I thought was interesting I chapter 24 is that in the text it states that the women were discussing things about the Mrunas. Why I find this text interesting is because, they were talking about how hard it was in their lives and what they are going though. I believe that the women really care about them because if they did they would have done something about it instead of talking about these children's situation.
I 100% agree with you and I know exactly what you talking about a lot of people will be focus and have a lot of things to come back on this conversation
Something I found interesting and worth talking about is Tom died and Atticus wanted to deliver the news first hand to his wife. On page 314-315 Atticus tells Calpernia "Toms dead, They shot him." And I also want to talk about Aunt Alexandra's reaction when Atticus told her about Tom. Her reaction is strange to me in many ways. She says "Didn't they try and stop him? Didn't they give him a warning?" Aunt Alexandra's voice shook.
@thomesha: I agree with you because It was strange that Aunt Alexandra was In shock..I don't believe that she was surprised about Tom's death. I think she wanted to make it seem like she had some type of feeling towards Tom
I think this will be a great conversation to get into because mostly everyone on this blog said the same thing so you know that this will be tooking a lot of different way.
One thing I would like to talk about is when they were asking Scout what did she want to be when she grow up and how aunt Calpurnia and the rest of the ladies tried to get her to act like a lady well under her circumstances a girl. Also I want to talk about why the fact that Scout kept interrupting people when they were speaking. The last one is how Scout had faith and courage to want to act like a girl. ( She think or know if her aunty could be a lady st the time so could she.)
@Starr this is also a part that I found interesting because she told them that she didn't want to be a lawyer so that I crazy to me but also understanding even though I did not pick this topic it still seems interesting but I doubt if the conversation would be any good though.
Starr!! I totally agree with you don't know how but you is thinking just like me I said something similar to this and yes I think this will be very intersecting to have a debate about mostly about the Scout trying to act like the girl she are.
Yea I had figure out my self like there's got to be something behind this because ain't nobody go try to help someone be something they ain't try to be they self
One interesting thing that emerges from ch. 24 is the group that includes Aunt Alexandria " The Missionary Circle".The missionary circle is a group of women in MayComb that includes aunt Alexandria that gossips about people one such as Helen Robinson. This group try's to help Scout to evolve into a women. Aunt Alexandria notices that Scout acts unladylike and challenges the norm ( women are suppose to stay home and clean well the men get the money and food for the women to cook ) so she thinks that the group would better help Scout to become more of the women that she sees in herself as. In the text it says " My journey was successful: Aunt Alexandria smiled brilliantly. " Stay with us, Jean Louise "she said. This was part of there campaign to teach me to be a lady" ( 307 ). This means that there mission was to make sure that Scout grows up to be like them the people that the see a being lady's. They don't understand what Scouts wants and for that they trying to change her. I think that they should just let Scout be Scout and let her fall were she falls.
I agree I with the fact how we should talk about how they try to make Scout act like a girl I actually wanted to know what was the purpose of them trying to make her act and dress like a girl she Is
@jabari: I agree with you because the fact that the missionary circle contains all women, it would help Scout to stop being around boys and to also help her to act more like her gender.
@jabari I agree that scout don't understand that once while she has to girl up and become a little lady instead of trying to have a mindset of a tomboy.
@Jabari Starr also said she wanted to talk about the same thing and I agreed its an interesting part but I just don't think everyone else would be that into it, but it is a good part.
I agree with you because they should keep pushing and pushing Scout to act like a girl that's who she is and that ain't going change no matter how you try to Change yourself. It is what it is.
I agree with you Jabari because basically scout defies the norms a lady is seen in that era but she does try to make an effort to become more lady like even though it's hard for her to adapt.
Question- What interesting things emerge from chapter 24.
Answer- One of the interesting things that emerge in chapter 24 is that Tom Robinson got shot and killed, in the text (page 255) it says “What's the matter?" Aunt Alexandra asked, alarmed by the look on my father's face. “Tom's dead." Aunt Alexandra put her hands to her mouth. “They shot him," said Atticus “He was running. It was during their exercise period. They said he just broke into a blind raving charge at the fence and started climbing over. Right in front of them" Aunt Alexandra knew something was wrong by the look on Atticus face, aunt Alexandra was socked to find out about Tom Robinson's death.
I agree with you Jaquis because after the town here about it it's going to be spreading around, then Stephen Crawford probably adds things that really didn't happen.
@Brittani I said the same thing and I had the same evidence it would be a great part to talk about and everyone pretty much agrees but only advice I give to you is check your page numbers because the part you are talking about accrued from pages 314-315
Yea I had found this interesting to talk about also because it helps me think back to the part of the trial and Atticus made a speech that I think meant something
Something that was interesting to me is that scout really doesn't want to go to the meeting but she wants to impress and show Aunt Alexandra that she can act like a woman. So they starts to talk about Helen, Tom Robinson wife and it's interesting how everyone has their own opinion and Aunt Alexandra is One thing that was interesting the one who tries to smoothing things out when really she the one who stirs everything up in other situations. Like the family meaning Atticus had with Jem and scout, also her trying to get Calpurnia fired. In the text it says" Aunt Alexandra got up from the table swiftly passed more refreshments....neatly engaging Mrs.Merriweather and Mrs.Gates in brisk conversation. When she had them all on the same road with Mrs.Perkins.... Aunt Alexandra gave Miss Maurdie a look of pure gratitude, and I wondered at the world of women. Miss Maurdie and Aunt Alexandra never been close, and here was Aunt Alexandra silently thanking her for something.... Aunt Alexandra could me pierced sufficiently to feel gratitude for help given(pg.312-313)." This tells me that Aunt Alexandra could be nice and grateful and is challenging the way we would expect her to act. I feel she's doing that to set an example for scout.
Josh!! I agree with you because yes would should talk about why Scout didn't go to the meeting but she did wanted to impress Aunty Alexandra because she know out of everybody she is the one that's going to say something and take that charge.
One thing I think that's worth discussing about is it was a quote that Miss Stephanie made to Scout on page 308 " Why shoot I thought you wanted to be a lawyer, you've already. commenced going to court." The reason why I want to talk about this because I want to know what she trying to say like what she trying to get at will I know what she saying but I want to know what my peers thinks about what she said because what she said I feel like it is harsh to say that to a kid it's just the way I took it but I understand what she saying I want to know what my peers think about what she saying. Then as I read on from that quote Scout feel a little a fended of what she said too, the way he responded he feel like why would she make that joke like he don't take it as a joke he take it as something else and if I was in Scout shoes I would take it a different way too like what you trying to say because I'm not really feeling that joke like I'm not buying that joke that you just said and that's how I think Scout feels. Scout responded "Nome, just a lady". I could just picture how she said it and how her face expression.
If the only reason Miss Stephanie Crawford ask her that because Atticus are a lawyer and she probably think scout could make a good lawyer like Atticus
@Lasharay I agree with you because some others choose this same thing it really is interesting because I would have thought that she wanted to be a lawyer too because her father is a lawyer and her brother wants to be a lawyer too.
I think miss Stephanie made that quote because there's always this little thing when your mother or father is something you would want to be and try it out so yea I agree with you lashe!!
One thing that is worth talking about in chapter 24 is when Atticus finds out that Tom Robinson was dead. After Atticus tells Aunt Alexandra and Calpurnia about the news, they both was in shock. Aunt Alexandra wasn't concerned about Tom's death, she was more concerned about her Brother and the pressure upon him. In the text it states "I can't say I approve of everything he does, Maudie, but he's my brother, and I just want to know when this will ever end"(pg.316). Generally speaking, if someone was to die and it was unexpected, you would feel more bad about the person who was deceased rather then then one who was hurt. My reaction to this is that Aunt Alexandra isn't showing racism only to Calpurnia, but to Tom as well because he's black also and he is less of a person to worry about to her.
I agree with this Alexandrea did seem to be more concerned about Atticus's health more than anything else and I think because of Atticus believes in equality might be the reason all that fatigue and stress comes on to him, and Aunt Alexandrea doesn't want that so she acts like the towns people
@Darneisha this is exactly what I wanted to focus on..... Aunts Alexandra's reaction... The fact that her reaction is not showing and racism is strange because I feel like she feels sometyype of way towards blacks because of the way that she treats Calpernia so I would call her racist but her reaction is totally not. Her reaction is challenging my thoughts.
I agree with you because I do think that Aunty wasn't really to much worried about Tom death she was basically like is you ok brother you ok and still breathing then I'm ok.
Yea everyone wanted to talk about how Tom Robinson had died and how the ladies try to teaches Scout how to act and dress like a lady so I guess I agree with you
Tom death is a big issue and I get that everyone knows about but scout not trying to act like a lady is something that been going on throughout the whole story Tom dies one time but scout acts like a tomboy a lot of times so I agree that we should talk about tom
One thing that is interesting to me in Chapter 24 that happened is when Miss. Stephanie Crawford asked Scout what she wanted to be when she grows up it states.....In the sudden silence that followed, miss Stephanie Crawford called from across the room, "Watcha going to be when you grow up, Jean Louise? A lawyer?" (Page 307). And then it states "Why shoot, I thought you wanted to be a lawyer, you've already commenced going to the court." The ladies laughed again. "That Stephanie's a card," somebody said. Miss Stephanie was encouraged to pursue the subject: "Don't you want to grow up to be a lawyer?" (Page 308) I thought that was kind of interesting because she was saying it kind of sarcastically cause her fathers a lawyer so to Miss Stephanie it's like...Oh yours fathers a lawyer you might as well be one too you went to court already and saw everything you've been there so you should be a lawyer just cause your fathers Is one...
This was interesting to me to because generally speaking people would tend to think that a children dream is to do what his/her mother or father job is. Example Atticus being an layer and scout probably wanting to be a lawyer.
I agree with Joshua that this is interesting because they want Scout to be more ladylike and they see being a lawyer as being a men's job she try's to act as if Scout never says anything and skips the question.
We'll yes Joshua I agree with you and Ikira because when my mother was little she wanted to be a register nurse but I never knew because she never attend that job but when she ask me what did I want to be I said an register nurse and she said that's what I wanted to be and I ain't even know. (Life to life connect)
Joshua I think your comment is so powerful because if you think about it you have to learn from your parents mistakes but at the same thing don't make the wrong choice and put yourself in a situation that you can't get out of
I agree with you Ikira.... When Stephane made this comment this made me think that she was making fun of What Atticus does for a living mainly because he decided to defend Tom Robinson and he knew it wasn't going to go the way it should
The missionary circle was a good idea cause it was a lot of ladies there and a young lady that was a tom boy. Scout being around them will probably make her a little mature through what she see how ladies act cause she really don't have anybody to look up to that lady but Calpurnia and Calpurnia doesn't live there and work alday when she at there house.Aunty Alexandre doesn't live there so it will take along time for her to get to know her better then she know her and long time for to look up to her. I feel the missionary circle will make scout a little mature cause she able to be around group of ladies and she get to see how they act when they around each and how it is to be a young lady not a tom boy. On (pg 307-308) Scout have a talk with the ladies about what she want to be when she get older. Basically when people have a talk about something like that it will make her a little mature than what she was. And she are get information from a ladies that know something and already been a young lady.
We'll I really don't thinks its interesting because scout is a tomboy and she really don't want to be their but Aunt Alexandra is putting pressure on her to act more like a young lady.
I agree with you because the fact that it is lots of women around her she will find herself trying to become one and the fact that she live with her father her brother and with dill coming around made her became the tomboy she is
Starr I think your comment is more powerful and Ralphelle I agree with you because if Scout just stick to her gender and be around a lot of girls them she will feel left out and want to act like a girl now so this would be a great thing to talk about.
One of the things I found interesting that was in chapter 24 was when aunt Alexandrea begin to see because Atticus is one of the mockingbirds (how hard he works) that delivers a sense of justice and believes everyone is made equal and should have a equal chance at life puts him in a position where not only he has the job as a lawyer but he has a duty to do what other people won't do because the racial division. What I found really interesting about this moment was when Scout had a thought and she said "Aunt Alexandrea never knew she was echoing her twelve-year old nephew" when I read this it made me think maybe Aunt Alexandrea puts on a mask to hide the fact that she may be like Atticus or Jem but she already knows the outcome of thinking this way or trying to be this way so she decides to be a teacake and fit in with the rest of the town, and get scout and get Scout and Jem to see that to.
I think this is interesting ad well because Atticus is A mockingbird but I think everyone should have been realized that he was. This case he's taking up just make him even braver.
Joshua I believe you as well as Kayla is right about how it is interesting, I'm not saying you all are wrong or nothing, but how is Atticus a mockingbird, I like that thought but with evidence explain how?
Atticus is an mockingbird because he's an innocent person being brave defending an black person and everyone that's white is mad and trying to say negative things about him. Even Bob Ewell is trying to hurt his children, for being honest and doing what's right.
Thanks for helping me, you right because if we think about what a real mockingbird is, it's a bird that gives pleasure without causing harm. Atticus does so. He causes no harm and try's to show how the world and life can be pleasurable and equal.
In August Aunt Alexander Invites Her whole missionary circle for tea at the Finch's residence. At first I predicted that it was for gossip purpose's only but it showed the girl like qualities in scout. Instead of running around with the boys, she sat in with the women. Scout even wore a dress for this occasion.Scout hears everything they were talking about and still behaves. The women even conversed with scout like she was growing and maturing. "Don't you want to grow up to be a lawyer?!" " Miss Maudie's hand touched mine and I answered mildly enough, "Nome, just a lady" This Shows how scout is growing from girl to women. The wildest part about the case how ever came with the situation with Tom. In The Circle they talk about how their own black servants have behaved badly ever since Tom Robinson’s trial. Miss Maudie shuts up their chatter with remarks of her own.Suddenly, Atticus appears and calls Alexandra to the kitchen. There he tells her, Scout, Calpurnia, and Miss Maudie that Tom Robinson attempted to escape and was shot seventeen times. He takes Calpurnia with him to tell the Robinson family of Tom’s death. Alexandra asks Miss Maudie how the town can allow Atticus to wreck himself in pursuit of justice. Maudie replies that the town trusts him to do right. They return with Scout to the missionary circle,Then act like nothing is wrong.
Yes when scout said shine don't want to be a lawyer she want to be a lady that shows that she have been listening and she's growing to be a young lady. so yes kiwhan I agree with you
An interesting thing that emerged from chapter 24 is how miss Maudie tightened her grip on scouts hand when miss stephenie said that scout should were dresses more. This was interesting to me because why would miss Maudie get mad just because miss stephenie said that scout needs to we're dresses more often.
Everybody wanted to talk about this and so do I, I feel that there is something behind this because why do they want scout to act and dress like a girl she is
Angle I believe your thinking is out of context, I feel what your saying could be valid but if we think bout the whole chapter that isn't that important, in fact it is not important. Miss Maudie role in that part dident indicate that she was mad, at the end of the day scout still wore a dress. I feel you had a claim that you were interested in but you had little to none evidence. You have a point but were the evidence to prove it
I also responded to Miss Maudie actions different then yours angle because do could understand why she would get mad. How Scout dress isn't non of Stephen Crawford business plus you don't even know her like that and what you says doesn't really matter because people may say they don't like the way she gossip.
I think the only reason scout wear that dress to make aunt Alexandre proud of her and think that she are engage in the meeting. To show aunt Alexandre that she can be a young lady
@Angel I feel as though you could have backed up what you were saying because you don't have no type of evidence and this just my opinion but it's more behind the story but I just don't think this topic is that interesting to talk about
I think that one of the most interesting things that happen in chapter 24 is when Atticus called Calpurina in the back to tell her that Tom Robinson is dead .pg. 315) Tom dead ,they got him when he went over the fence ,seventeen bullet holes in him . I thought this was one of the most interesting things because since his a black man you knew he was not going to be free but he tried to escape
I agree with you but I think you should give deeper thoughts of your own, your own creative thinking is blocked by your quote, overall you were right about how it is important and interesting but you need a deeper claim great evidence though. 👍
I think that one of the most interesting things that happen in chapter 24 is when Atticus called Calpurina in the back to tell her that Tom Robinson is dead .pg. 315) Tom dead ,they got him when he went over the fence ,seventeen bullet holes in him . I thought this was one of the most interesting things because since his a black man you knew he was not going to be free but he tried to escape
I agree with you but I think you should give deeper thoughts of your own, your own creative thinking is blocked by your quote, overall you were right about how it is important and interesting but you need a deeper claim great evidence though. 👍
One thing worth talking about in chapter 24 is how.Mrs.Marriweather talks about helping black people but how can she when she doesn't treat them as equals.It's indicated by her patronizing attitude towards the black people of Maycomb
One of the interesting things that emerge in chapter 24 is that Atticus is upset that Tom Robinson gave up his and hope in prison and got himself shot while trying to escape prison. Atticus was a great attorney for Tom and he wanted to on a second trial even though they chances of winning was not good. Atticus and Calpurnia went to tell Tom Robinson wife (Helen Robinson) that Tom was dead while trying to escape prison. Aunty Alexandra was astonished.
ReplyDelete@Jacquis: I agree with you because Tom Robinson knew he wasn't going to free so he he tried to escape to get freedom.
Delete@jacquis i agree that this is important but I think that you should have gotten some textual evidence to support you claim.
Delete@Jaqucis I totally agree with you that's what I said but I want to focus more so on Aunt Alexandra's reaction because her reaction was strange to me.
DeleteJacquis I think this will be very intersecting to talk about and have a good conversation because I know that everyone will love to talk about how Tom died and how.
DeleteI agree with you, Tom's death is symbolic and important part in the text
DeleteI feel Tom Gave Up on his life because he already knew he was going to die cause he had the appeal coming up and they was going to charge him with guilty because he was black. They was going to kill him any way cause he was get at the appeal they was taking him to the chair.That why he try to escape because he knew he probably had a chance to be free cause he could have got alway. He felt he could have die for doing something not for something he did not do.
Delete@jacquis: I agree that this part of the chapter was interesting because I never would've thought that Tom Robinson would escape. He knew that if he stayed in prison he would die in prison. I think Tom thought it was best for him to try to escape.
Delete@jabari you're right I did forget some textual evidence thanks Jabari . But for everyone else I agree with all y'all because Tom was in a sentence to life or free situation so this would be a great thing to talk about
DeleteI agree with you Jacquis ... Atticus was good at presenting that Tom Robinson is innocent.
DeleteYea Toms death I think it symbolizes the fact that because we are black we get punish when whites want us to get punish
DeleteIn Chapter 24,Attitus Finch interrupted the missionary circle to tell Calpurina & Alexandra that Tom Robinson was dead because he tried to escape from prison and they shot him seventeen times. In the text it stated(On pg.315) "Seventeen bullet holes in him." Tom Robinson took his own chances because he knew he probably wasn't going to be a free man. In the text it stated(On pg.315) "I guess Tom was tired of white men's chances and preferred to take his own." Generally speaking blacks get less chances than whites.
ReplyDelete@Sierra I agree this would be a insteresting thing to talk about because I excited to see what every one has to say because mostly everyone has pick this topic and so did I.
DeleteI agree with your warrant that blacks get less chance of opportunity than the white people and I think Tom did what he did to show exactly that.
Delete@seirra I agree with you because at the point in time whites we're treated better than blacks and had better opportunities and Tom new that he was going to die anyways because there was no chance that a black man would win under those circumstances so he Tried to escape well knowing might set him free but also that it was the right chose cuz he would die anyways.
DeleteI agrre with u Sierrra when you said that Generally speaking blacks get less chances than whites . Why because , if a lot of black people walking to a store they will be looking at you like you about to Steal out the store . And they will be following you around the store antell you pay for you stuff that you picked up .
Delete@sierra: I agree because more whites get a better chance in winning then blacks.. And he knew that he would die regardless " what's the point of living if Tom knew he was going To die?"
Delete@sierra I agree with you
Delete@Everybody: Thanks for your feedback & I agree with all y'all too.
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ReplyDeleteWhat I thought was interesting I chapter 24 is that in the text it states that the women were discussing things about the Mrunas. Why I find this text interesting is because, they were talking about how hard it was in their lives and what they are going though. I believe that the women really care about them because if they did they would have done something about it instead of talking about these children's situation.
ReplyDeleteI 100% agree with you and I know exactly what you talking about a lot of people will be focus and have a lot of things to come back on this conversation
DeleteSomething I found interesting and worth talking about is Tom died and Atticus wanted to deliver the news first hand to his wife. On page 314-315 Atticus tells Calpernia "Toms dead, They shot him." And I also want to talk about Aunt Alexandra's reaction when Atticus told her about Tom. Her reaction is strange to me in many ways. She says "Didn't they try and stop him? Didn't they give him a warning?" Aunt Alexandra's voice shook.
ReplyDeleteYes, I Wanted to talk about how Tom Robinson died and people were bringing atticus food in stuff I just forgot but yes I agree with you
Delete@Thomesha: I agree with you because I think this is a symbolic or important part of the story.
DeleteI agree with you because typically when someone dies people arent really worried about things in that Catorgorie
Delete@thomesha: I agree with you because It was strange that Aunt Alexandra was In shock..I don't believe that she was surprised about Tom's death. I think she wanted to make it seem like she had some type of feeling towards Tom
DeletePic agree on what u saying but, it depends on how close you are with that person .
DeleteI think this will be a great conversation to get into because mostly everyone on this blog said the same thing so you know that this will be tooking a lot of different way.
DeleteOne thing I would like to talk about is when they were asking Scout what did she want to be when she grow up and how aunt Calpurnia and the rest of the ladies tried to get her to act like a lady well under her circumstances a girl. Also I want to talk about why the fact that Scout kept interrupting people when they were speaking. The last one is how Scout had faith and courage to want to act like a girl. ( She think or know if her aunty could be a lady st the time so could she.)
ReplyDelete@Starr: I agree with you because people is keep asking her to act like a lady, but people need to understand she's like being a tomboy.
Delete@starr: I agree with your post because Aunt Alexandra wants Scout to represent herself more as a young women and to grow as one also
Delete@Starr this is also a part that I found interesting because she told them that she didn't want to be a lawyer so that I crazy to me but also understanding even though I did not pick this topic it still seems interesting but I doubt if the conversation would be any good though.
DeleteStarr!! I totally agree with you don't know how but you is thinking just like me I said something similar to this and yes I think this will be very intersecting to have a debate about mostly about the Scout trying to act like the girl she are.
DeleteI agree on you of when people were telling Calpurnia to act like a ladie
DeleteYea I had figure out my self like there's got to be something behind this because ain't nobody go try to help someone be something they ain't try to be they self
DeleteUmm I mean aunt Alexandra
DeleteOne interesting thing that emerges from ch. 24 is the group that includes Aunt Alexandria " The Missionary Circle".The missionary circle is a group of women in MayComb that includes aunt Alexandria that gossips about people one such as Helen Robinson. This group try's to help Scout to evolve into a women. Aunt Alexandria notices that Scout acts unladylike and challenges the norm ( women are suppose to stay home and clean well the men get the money and food for the women to cook ) so she thinks that the group would better help Scout to become more of the women that she sees in herself as. In the text it says " My journey was successful: Aunt Alexandria smiled brilliantly. " Stay with us, Jean Louise "she said. This was part of there campaign to teach me to be a lady" ( 307 ). This means that there mission was to make sure that Scout grows up to be like them the people that the see a being lady's. They don't understand what Scouts wants and for that they trying to change her. I think that they should just let Scout be Scout and let her fall were she falls.
ReplyDeleteI agree I with the fact how we should talk about how they try to make Scout act like a girl I actually wanted to know what was the purpose of them trying to make her act and dress like a girl she Is
Delete@jabari: I agree with you because the fact that the missionary circle contains all women, it would help Scout to stop being around boys and to also help her to act more like her gender.
Delete@jabari I agree that scout don't understand that once while she has to girl up and become a little lady instead of trying to have a mindset of a tomboy.
Delete@Jabari Starr also said she wanted to talk about the same thing and I agreed its an interesting part but I just don't think everyone else would be that into it, but it is a good part.
DeleteI agree with you because they should keep pushing and pushing Scout to act like a girl that's who she is and that ain't going change no matter how you try to Change yourself. It is what it is.
DeleteI agree with you Jabari because basically scout defies the norms a lady is seen in that era but she does try to make an effort to become more lady like even though it's hard for her to adapt.
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ReplyDeleteQuestion- What interesting things emerge from chapter 24.
Answer- One of the interesting things that emerge in chapter 24 is that Tom Robinson got shot and killed, in the text (page 255) it says
“What's the matter?" Aunt Alexandra asked, alarmed by the look on my father's face.
“Tom's dead."
Aunt Alexandra put her hands to her mouth.
“They shot him," said Atticus “He was running. It was during their exercise period. They said he just broke into a blind raving charge at the fence and started climbing over. Right in front of them"
Aunt Alexandra knew something was wrong by the look on Atticus face, aunt Alexandra was socked to find out about Tom Robinson's death.
@brittini this is a emerging thing in chapter 24 because Tom death is going to be all over town once everyone founds out so I agree
DeleteI agree with you Jaquis because after the town here about it it's going to be spreading around, then Stephen Crawford probably adds things that really didn't happen.
Delete@Brittani I said the same thing and I had the same evidence it would be a great part to talk about and everyone pretty much agrees but only advice I give to you is check your page numbers because the part you are talking about accrued from pages 314-315
Delete@joshua that's my point exactly gossip is a big issue around Maycomb and everyone wants to know someone's business
Delete@Brittani I get it you had a different book.... sorry
DeleteMy book's pages where different because my book was smaller
DeleteYea I had found this interesting to talk about also because it helps me think back to the part of the trial and Atticus made a speech that I think meant something
Delete@Brittani: I agree with you because I think this part is important
DeleteSomething that was interesting to me is that scout really doesn't want to go to the meeting but she wants to impress and show Aunt Alexandra that she can act like a woman. So they starts to talk about Helen, Tom Robinson wife and it's interesting how everyone has their own opinion and Aunt Alexandra is One thing that was interesting the one who tries to smoothing things out when really she the one who stirs everything up in other situations. Like the family meaning Atticus had with Jem and scout, also her trying to get Calpurnia fired. In the text it says" Aunt Alexandra got up from the table swiftly passed more refreshments....neatly engaging Mrs.Merriweather and Mrs.Gates in brisk conversation. When she had them all on the same road with Mrs.Perkins.... Aunt Alexandra gave Miss Maurdie a look of pure gratitude, and I wondered at the world of women. Miss Maurdie and Aunt Alexandra never been close, and here was Aunt Alexandra silently thanking her for something.... Aunt Alexandra could me pierced sufficiently to feel gratitude for help given(pg.312-313)." This tells me that Aunt Alexandra could be nice and grateful and is challenging the way we would expect her to act. I feel she's doing that to set an example for scout.
ReplyDeleteJosh!! I agree with you because yes would should talk about why Scout didn't go to the meeting but she did wanted to impress Aunty Alexandra because she know out of everybody she is the one that's going to say something and take that charge.
DeleteI agree with Joshua but I feel that the meeting could make scout mature because they are talking about Thing that are important
DeleteI feel tht scout didn't want to be in that meeting but since her aunt wanted her to act and dress and join the meeting she was go impress her
Delete@Joshua: I agree with you about what's going on in the meeting.
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One thing I think that's worth discussing about is it was a quote that Miss Stephanie made to Scout on page 308 " Why shoot I thought you wanted to be a lawyer, you've already. commenced going to court." The reason why I want to talk about this because I want to know what she trying to say like what she trying to get at will I know what she saying but I want to know what my peers thinks about what she said because what she said I feel like it is harsh to say that to a kid it's just the way I took it but I understand what she saying I want to know what my peers think about what she saying. Then as I read on from that quote Scout feel a little a fended of what she said too, the way he responded he feel like why would she make that joke like he don't take it as a joke he take it as something else and if I was in Scout shoes I would take it a different way too like what you trying to say because I'm not really feeling that joke like I'm not buying that joke that you just said and that's how I think Scout feels. Scout responded "Nome, just a lady". I could just picture how she said it and how her face expression.
If the only reason Miss Stephanie Crawford ask her that because Atticus are a lawyer and she probably think scout could make a good lawyer like Atticus
Delete@Lasharay I agree with you because some others choose this same thing it really is interesting because I would have thought that she wanted to be a lawyer too because her father is a lawyer and her brother wants to be a lawyer too.
DeleteI think miss Stephanie made that quote because there's always this little thing when your mother or father is something you would want to be and try it out so yea I agree with you lashe!!
DeleteOne thing that is worth talking about in chapter 24 is when Atticus finds out that Tom Robinson was dead. After Atticus tells Aunt Alexandra and Calpurnia about the news, they both was in shock. Aunt Alexandra wasn't concerned about Tom's death, she was more concerned about her Brother and the pressure upon him. In the text it states "I can't say I approve of everything he does, Maudie, but he's my brother, and I just want to know when this will ever end"(pg.316). Generally speaking, if someone was to die and it was unexpected, you would feel more bad about the person who was deceased rather then then one who was hurt. My reaction to this is that Aunt Alexandra isn't showing racism only to Calpurnia, but to Tom as well because he's black also and he is less of a person to worry about to her.
ReplyDelete@Dariensha: I agree with you because Tom took his own chances because he knew he wasn't probably going to be free because of a skin color.
DeleteI agree with this Alexandrea did seem to be more concerned about Atticus's health more than anything else and I think because of Atticus believes in equality might be the reason all that fatigue and stress comes on to him, and Aunt Alexandrea doesn't want that so she acts like the towns people
Delete@Darneisha this is exactly what I wanted to focus on..... Aunts Alexandra's reaction... The fact that her reaction is not showing and racism is strange because I feel like she feels sometyype of way towards blacks because of the way that she treats Calpernia so I would call her racist but her reaction is totally not. Her reaction is challenging my thoughts.
DeleteI agree with you because I do think that Aunty wasn't really to much worried about Tom death she was basically like is you ok brother you ok and still breathing then I'm ok.
DeleteYea everyone wanted to talk about how Tom Robinson had died and how the ladies try to teaches Scout how to act and dress like a lady so I guess I agree with you
DeleteTom death is a big issue and I get that everyone knows about but scout not trying to act like a lady is something that been going on throughout the whole story Tom dies one time but scout acts like a tomboy a lot of times so I agree that we should talk about tom
DeleteOne thing that is interesting to me in Chapter 24 that happened is when Miss. Stephanie Crawford asked Scout what she wanted to be when she grows up it states.....In the sudden silence that followed, miss Stephanie Crawford called from across the room, "Watcha going to be when you grow up, Jean Louise? A lawyer?" (Page 307). And then it states "Why shoot, I thought you wanted to be a lawyer, you've already commenced going to the court." The ladies laughed again. "That Stephanie's a card," somebody said. Miss Stephanie was encouraged to pursue the subject: "Don't you want to grow up to be a lawyer?" (Page 308) I thought that was kind of interesting because she was saying it kind of sarcastically cause her fathers a lawyer so to Miss Stephanie it's like...Oh yours fathers a lawyer you might as well be one too you went to court already and saw everything you've been there so you should be a lawyer just cause your fathers Is one...
ReplyDeleteThis was interesting to me to because generally speaking people would tend to think that a children dream is to do what his/her mother or father job is. Example Atticus being an layer and scout probably wanting to be a lawyer.
DeleteI agree with Joshua that this is interesting because they want Scout to be more ladylike and they see being a lawyer as being a men's job she try's to act as if Scout never says anything and skips the question.
DeleteWe'll yes Joshua I agree with you and Ikira because when my mother was little she wanted to be a register nurse but I never knew because she never attend that job but when she ask me what did I want to be I said an register nurse and she said that's what I wanted to be and I ain't even know. (Life to life connect)
DeleteJoshua I think your comment is so powerful because if you think about it you have to learn from your parents mistakes but at the same thing don't make the wrong choice and put yourself in a situation that you can't get out of
DeleteI agree with you Ikira.... When Stephane made this comment this made me think that she was making fun of What Atticus does for a living mainly because he decided to defend Tom Robinson and he knew it wasn't going to go the way it should
Delete@Ikira: I agree with you.
Delete@ikria I agree with you I think that she was kind of being sarcastic
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ReplyDeleteThe missionary circle was a good idea cause it was a lot of ladies there and a young lady that was a tom boy. Scout being around them will probably make her a little mature through what she see how ladies act cause she really don't have anybody to look up to that lady but Calpurnia and Calpurnia doesn't live there and work alday when she at there house.Aunty Alexandre doesn't live there so it will take along time for her to get to know her better then she know her and long time for to look up to her. I feel the missionary circle will make scout a little mature cause she able to be around group of ladies and she get to see how they act when they around each and how it is to be a young lady not a tom boy. On (pg 307-308) Scout have a talk with the ladies about what she want to be when she get older. Basically when people have a talk about something like that it will make her a little mature than what she was. And she are get information from a ladies that know something and already been a young lady.
We'll I really don't thinks its interesting because scout is a tomboy and she really don't want to be their but Aunt Alexandra is putting pressure on her to act more like a young lady.
DeleteI agree with you because the fact that it is lots of women around her she will find herself trying to become one and the fact that she live with her father her brother and with dill coming around made her became the tomboy she is
DeleteStarr I think your comment is more powerful and Ralphelle I agree with you because if Scout just stick to her gender and be around a lot of girls them she will feel left out and want to act like a girl now so this would be a great thing to talk about.
DeleteRight she be around boys and man not really girls to look up to so how would she will act like a young lady
DeleteRaphelle I agree on what you are saying it seems like to me that everyone is talking about how Calpurnia needs to act like a lady .
DeleteOne of the things I found interesting that was in chapter 24 was when aunt Alexandrea begin to see because Atticus is one of the mockingbirds (how hard he works) that delivers a sense of justice and believes everyone is made equal and should have a equal chance at life puts him in a position where not only he has the job as a lawyer but he has a duty to do what other people won't do because the racial division. What I found really interesting about this moment was when Scout had a thought and she said "Aunt Alexandrea never knew she was echoing her twelve-year old nephew" when I read this it made me think maybe Aunt Alexandrea puts on a mask to hide the fact that she may be like Atticus or Jem but she already knows the outcome of thinking this way or trying to be this way so she decides to be a teacake and fit in with the rest of the town, and get scout and get Scout and Jem to see that to.
ReplyDeleteI think this is interesting ad well because Atticus is A mockingbird but I think everyone should have been realized that he was. This case he's taking up just make him even braver.
DeleteJoshua I believe you as well as Kayla is right about how it is interesting, I'm not saying you all are wrong or nothing, but how is Atticus a mockingbird, I like that thought but with evidence explain how?
DeleteAtticus is an mockingbird because he's an innocent person being brave defending an black person and everyone that's white is mad and trying to say negative things about him. Even Bob Ewell is trying to hurt his children, for being honest and doing what's right.
DeleteI've never thought of it that way now that I see I know the true meaning of a mockingbird
DeleteThanks for helping me, you right because if we think about what a real mockingbird is, it's a bird that gives pleasure without causing harm. Atticus does so. He causes no harm and try's to show how the world and life can be pleasurable and equal.
DeleteIn August Aunt Alexander Invites Her whole missionary circle for tea at the Finch's residence. At first I predicted that it was for gossip purpose's only but it showed the girl like qualities in scout. Instead of running around with the boys, she sat in with the women. Scout even wore a dress for this occasion.Scout hears everything they were talking about and still behaves. The women even conversed with scout like she was growing and maturing. "Don't you want to grow up to be a lawyer?!" " Miss Maudie's hand touched mine and I answered mildly enough, "Nome, just a lady" This Shows how scout is growing from girl to women. The wildest part about the case how ever came with the situation with Tom. In The Circle they talk about how their own black servants have behaved badly ever since Tom Robinson’s trial. Miss Maudie shuts up their chatter with remarks of her own.Suddenly, Atticus appears and calls Alexandra to the kitchen. There he tells her, Scout, Calpurnia, and Miss Maudie that Tom Robinson attempted to escape and was shot seventeen times. He takes Calpurnia with him to tell the Robinson family of Tom’s death. Alexandra asks Miss Maudie how the town can allow Atticus to wreck himself in pursuit of justice. Maudie replies that the town trusts him to do right. They return with Scout to the missionary circle,Then act like nothing is wrong.
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DeleteI ment to say the wildest thing of the chapter
DeleteYes when scout said shine don't want to be a lawyer she want to be a lady that shows that she have been listening and she's growing to be a young lady. so yes kiwhan I agree with you
DeleteThanks because her saying that shows how she stands up for her self and won't anyone influence her on what she would like to be
DeleteAn interesting thing that emerged from chapter 24 is how miss Maudie tightened her grip on scouts hand when miss stephenie said that scout should were dresses more. This was interesting to me because why would miss Maudie get mad just because miss stephenie said that scout needs to we're dresses more often.
ReplyDeleteEverybody wanted to talk about this and so do I, I feel that there is something behind this because why do they want scout to act and dress like a girl she is
DeleteAngle I believe your thinking is out of context, I feel what your saying could be valid but if we think bout the whole chapter that isn't that important, in fact it is not important. Miss Maudie role in that part dident indicate that she was mad, at the end of the day scout still wore a dress. I feel you had a claim that you were interested in but you had little to none evidence. You have a point but were the evidence to prove it
DeleteThis is emerging because gender is a big thing for scout to work on and to get use to so I agree with you
Delete@Angel: I agree with you, but where's the evidence.
DeleteI also responded to Miss Maudie actions different then yours angle because do could understand why she would get mad. How Scout dress isn't non of Stephen Crawford business plus you don't even know her like that and what you says doesn't really matter because people may say they don't like the way she gossip.
DeleteI agree with you like this is the main focus and this could be tooking another way that's why this would be a great conversation to talk about.
DeleteI think the only reason scout wear that dress to make aunt Alexandre proud of her and think that she are engage in the meeting. To show aunt Alexandre that she can be a young lady
Delete@Angel I feel as though you could have backed up what you were saying because you don't have no type of evidence and this just my opinion but it's more behind the story but I just don't think this topic is that interesting to talk about
DeleteI think that one of the most interesting things that happen in chapter 24 is when Atticus called Calpurina in the back to tell her that Tom Robinson is dead .pg. 315) Tom dead ,they got him when he went over the fence ,seventeen bullet holes in him . I thought this was one of the most interesting things because since his a black man you knew he was not going to be free but he tried to escape
ReplyDeleteI agree with you but I think you should give deeper thoughts of your own, your own creative thinking is blocked by your quote, overall you were right about how it is important and interesting but you need a deeper claim great evidence though. 👍
Delete@Deriauna: I agree with you because Tom took his own chances because he knew he probably wasn't going to be a free man.
DeleteI think that one of the most interesting things that happen in chapter 24 is when Atticus called Calpurina in the back to tell her that Tom Robinson is dead .pg. 315) Tom dead ,they got him when he went over the fence ,seventeen bullet holes in him . I thought this was one of the most interesting things because since his a black man you knew he was not going to be free but he tried to escape
ReplyDeleteYou right I agree with you I want to talk about this because I feel so upset for his loss all because of two women
Delete@Deriauna: I agree with you because Tom took his own chances because he knew he probably wasn't going to be a free man.
DeleteI agree with you but I think you should give deeper thoughts of your own, your own creative thinking is blocked by your quote, overall you were right about how it is important and interesting but you need a deeper claim great evidence though. 👍
ReplyDeleteOne thing worth talking about in chapter 24 is how.Mrs.Marriweather talks about helping black people but how can she when she doesn't treat them as equals.It's indicated by her patronizing attitude towards the black people of Maycomb
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